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Post by mworrom on Jan 9, 2013 14:43:55 GMT
Greetings! We've been discussing the proper indication of possession when the company name already includes an apostrophe: Gregg's stock is at $45/share versus Gregg's's stock is at $45/share.
We're split on the correct answer - what do you think?
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Post by hubertus on Jan 9, 2013 16:48:05 GMT
Gregg's store, Gregg's stock, Gregg's apostrophe. You cannot double up apostrophes, at least not according to convention.
Interestingly, Waterstones, as it now is, could/should receive an apostrophe: Waterstones' stock. Or Waterstones's stock, according to alternative convention.
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Post by Verbivore on Jan 9, 2013 20:36:39 GMT
mworrom: No doubling of apostrophes.
When stuck with a name such as McDonald's, there is no extra-apopstrophe version for a (double) possessive.
McDonald's sell crap food. McDonald's food is crap.
Might seem odd, but don't expect to find much in English that's logical.
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Post by Twoddle on Jan 9, 2013 22:50:15 GMT
mworrom: No doubling of apostrophes. When stuck with a name such as McDonald's, there is no extra-apopstrophe version for a (double) possessive. McDonald's sell crap food. McDonald's food is crap. Might seem odd, but don't expect to find much in English that's logical. Quite so. The name, McDonald's, is itself illogical: the chain was founded by two McDonald brothers, so it should be called McDonalds'.
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Post by hubertus on Jan 10, 2013 0:20:11 GMT
mworrom: No doubling of apostrophes. When stuck with a name such as McDonald's, there is no extra-apopstrophe version for a (double) possessive. McDonald's sell crap food. McDonald's food is crap. Might seem odd, but don't expect to find much in English that's logical. Quite so. The name, McDonald's, is itself illogical: the chain was founded by two McDonald brothers, so it should be called McDonalds'. ... unless, it is the restaurant of the family, McDonald? Or am I splitting hairs? ;D
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Post by mworrom on Jan 10, 2013 16:05:36 GMT
Many thanks for the terrific replies. Much appreciated!
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Post by Dave Miller on Jan 15, 2013 15:40:58 GMT
And how can there be a "Big Mac"? It's McDonald's, not MacDonald's. Two quite different Scottish clans, with quite differently-pronounced names: the latter pronounced "mack", the former pronounced "m(u)ck" (and indeed with other Mac/Mc Scots names).
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Post by Twoddle on Jan 15, 2013 18:30:33 GMT
And how can there be a "Big Mac"? It's McDonald's, not MacDonald's. Two quite different Scottish clans, with quite differently-pronounced names: the latter pronounced "mack", the former pronounced "m(u)ck" (and indeed with other Mac/Mc Scots names). Exactly the same clan, Dave - Clan Donald - and merely a difference in spelling which originated in the days of mass illiteracy. The pre-Anglicised spelling was Mac Dhomhnuill (Son of the World Mighty) for men and Nic Dhomhnuill (Daughter of the World Mighty) for women. Clan Donald was the most powerful of all Scottish clans and formed the most paternalistic, least feudal form of Government ever seen in Scotland - the Lordship of the Isles - which was destroyed by the murdering, back-stabbing, scumbag Stuart kings, and downtrodden even further by Clan Campbell (the Dark Side of the Force), the head of which - the Duke of Argyll - was undoubtedly the role model for Darth Vader. Later, those two swine, the McDonald brothers, started the chain of restaurants which has dragged the once proud and famous name of the clan down to the level where, throughout the known World, it's recognised only as a hamburger; a chain which actually attempted to prevent other food-shops in Scotland from using names with the prefix "Mc"!All of the above are entirely unbiased facts, of course, as I have no axe to grind on the subject. Ian McDonald Twoddle (Ohmigawd; isn't this thread supposed to be for quick questions?)
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Post by Tone on Jan 15, 2013 20:35:30 GMT
>And how can there be a "Big Mac"? <
P'raps it's some sort of large raincoat?
Tone
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Post by jjg1 on Jan 16, 2013 0:51:24 GMT
And how can there be a "Big Mac"? It's McDonald's, not MacDonald's. Two quite different Scottish clans, with quite differently-pronounced names: the latter pronounced "mack", the former pronounced "m(u)ck" (and indeed with other Mac/Mc Scots names). Exactly the same clan, Dave - Clan Donald - and merely a difference in spelling which originated in the days of mass illiteracy. The pre-Anglicised spelling was Mac Dhomhnuill (Son of the World Mighty) for men and Nic Dhomhnuill (Daughter of the World Mighty) for women. Clan Donald was the most powerful of all Scottish clans and formed the most paternalistic, least feudal form of Government ever seen in Scotland - the Lordship of the Isles - which was destroyed by the murdering, back-stabbing, scumbag Stuart kings, and downtrodden even further by Clan Campbell (the Dark Side of the Force), the head of which - the Duke of Argyll - was undoubtedly the role model for Darth Vader. Later, those two swine, the McDonald brothers, started the chain of restaurants which has dragged the once proud and famous name of the clan down to the level where, throughout the known World, it's recognised only as a hamburger; a chain which actually attempted to prevent other food-shops in Scotland from using names with the prefix "Mc"!All of the above are entirely unbiased facts, of course, as I have no axe to grind on the subject. Ian McDonald Twoddle (Ohmigawd; isn't this thread supposed to be for quick questions?) I came over all goose-pimples there Twoddle, a cold shiver all the way from Glencoe!
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Post by Dave Miller on Jan 16, 2013 7:38:59 GMT
Then I was misinformed, Sir!
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Post by Twoddle on Jan 16, 2013 10:21:19 GMT
Then I was misinformed, Sir! Undoubtedly by Campbell disinformation. Bad blood will out.
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Post by Twoddle on Jan 16, 2013 10:35:05 GMT
I came over all goose-pimples there Twoddle, a cold shiver all the way from Glencoe! An infamous case of betrayal of trust, and of genocide, by the Crown and its evil Campbell toadies. The inviolable rule - nay, religion - of Highland Hospitality was violated by the scum of the Earth. (Mark you, the MacDonalds of Glen Coe were a bunch of inveterate cattle-thieves and probably had it coming to them.) But, as I intimated, I have no strong views on the matter.
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Post by jjg1 on Jan 16, 2013 19:29:35 GMT
I came over all goose-pimples there Twoddle, a cold shiver all the way from Glencoe! An infamous case of betrayal of trust, and of genocide, by the Crown and its evil Campbell toadies. The inviolable rule - nay, religion - of Highland Hospitality was violated by the scum of the Earth. (Mark you, the MacDonalds of Glen Coe were a bunch of inveterate cattle-thieves and probably had it coming to them.) But, as I intimated, I have no strong views on the matter. Twoddle, the lack of strength of feeling in your views shines through ;D!
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Post by Tone on Jan 16, 2013 21:22:22 GMT
>The inviolable rule - nay, religion - of Highland Hospitality was violated by the scum of the Earth. <
Is that a contradiction or just a paradox?
Tone
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