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Post by Dave on Oct 1, 2017 11:07:11 GMT
It's not often I start the monthly thread, being the last poster to actually flip the calendar over (California)--unless it's Sep 31 for the rest of you!
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Post by Twoddle on Oct 1, 2017 14:49:40 GMT
Please don't take this the wrong way, anyone, but I find myself rather looking forward to reports of earthquakes. They allow me to hear the word "epicentre" used correctly; a rare use of it.
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Post by Verbivore on Oct 1, 2017 22:41:56 GMT
Please don't take this the wrong way, anyone, but I find myself rather looking forward to reports of earthquakes. They allow me to hear the word "epicentre" used correctly; a rare use of it. Twod: I share your dislike of epicentre used to mean the "very centre" of anything, and spend too much time emending such misusages. |
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Post by Verbivore on Oct 2, 2017 10:31:18 GMT
Is this a UK-US difference?
In watching videos (of cars and digital keyboards) I note that British and Australian narrators/presenters generally pronounce MKI, MKII, MKIII etc. as Mark 1, Mark 2, Mark 3 and so forth, while Americans say Em-Kay 1, Em-Kay 2, Em-Kay 3 … .
Thus, what Britishers (and I) would pronounce as Mark 2 (Jaguar, Rover …) is pronounced by Americans as Em-Kay 2.
Am I alone in this observation? Is "Mark [number]" not generally part of US nomenclature?
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Post by Verbivore on Oct 2, 2017 12:04:14 GMT
An "anniversary" nonsense:
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Post by Dave Miller on Oct 2, 2017 12:54:19 GMT
Is this a UK-US difference? In watching videos (of cars and digital keyboards) I note that British and Australian narrators/presenters generally pronounce MKI, MKII, MKIII etc. as Mark 1, Mark 2, Mark 3 and so forth, while Americans say Em-Kay 1, Em-Kay 2, Em-Kay 3 … . Thus, what Britishers (and I) would pronounce as Mark 2 (Jaguar, Rover …) is pronounced by Americans as Em-Kay 2. Am I alone in this observation? Is "Mark [number]" not generally part of US nomenclature? I've never heard Mk 1, etc, pronounced as "emm kay one". It would sound very strange - as though the speaker hadn't understood the abbreviation. |
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Post by Verbivore on Oct 2, 2017 20:34:11 GMT
I've never heard Mk 1, etc, pronounced as "emm kay one". It would sound very strange - as though the speaker hadn't understood the abbreviation. Thanks, Dave. It's not just I who thought it strange. I can't think of any US cars that have a Mark number; the nearest that comes to mind is the Mustang MACH III, which isn't the same thing. |
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Post by Dave Miller on Oct 2, 2017 21:32:59 GMT
... I can't think of any US cars that have a Mark number ... . Continental and later Lincoln Continental? |
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Post by Verbivore on Oct 2, 2017 21:51:09 GMT
... I can't think of any US cars that have a Mark number ... . Continental and later Lincoln Continental? Ah, yes. I note that those are usually spelled out fully as Mark II etc, not MkII; perhaps that explains the weird Em-Kay 2 pronunciation of the written MkII? |
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Post by Dave on Oct 3, 2017 3:21:02 GMT
Lincoln (Ford) appears to have a(n) MKX (no space) and a(n) MKZ, so I'd say em-kay-eks or em-kay-zee (zed for you?). I don't know if the MKX should be "Mark ten," though. What would that make the MKZ? Without the space, these look like their designations (unpronounceable) rather than an abbreviation of Mark. Mazda has a cee-eks-five (CX-5), Honda a cee-are-vee (CR-V), and Toyota a rav-four (RAV4); we don't, as most probably don't, pronounce the 'dash' in talking about these vehicles. Nobody says "mark-eye" or "mark-eye-eye," do they?  |
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Post by Verbivore on Oct 3, 2017 5:12:11 GMT
Lincoln (Ford) appears to have a(n) MKX (no space) and a(n) MKZ, so I'd say em-kay-eks or em-kay-zee (zed for you?). I don't know if the MKX should be "Mark ten," though. What would that make the MKZ? Without the space, these look like their designations (unpronounceable) rather than an abbreviation of Mark. Mazda has a cee-eks-five (CX-5), Honda a cee-are-vee (CR-V), and Toyota a rav-four (RAV4); we don't, as most probably don't, pronounce the 'dash' in talking about these vehicles. would, if applied to a Jaguar, be pronounced Mark 10 (those were great walruses of cars). Nobody says "mark-eye" or "mark-eye-eye," do they? Haven't heard them (yet). :-) I did, after posting my query about Mk, find a Brit saying Em-Kay 2 for MkII; he was of the young generation, so perhaps it's a generational thing and the young'uns are unfamiliar with the Mark nomenclature. |
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Post by Little Jack Horner on Oct 3, 2017 19:37:59 GMT
The autumn nights in the UK are well and truly drawing in and I will have to put up up with dark evenings and cold and rain for the next six months or so — sunset was at 18.32 today as compared with 21.20 followed by a long twilight on a warm summer evening. There is nothing worth watching on television and the novel I am writing seems to be going nowhere at the moment. Also, I am making an art form out of laziness so I have nothing better to do than to observe that most folk seem to think that all words ending with IUM should form the plural by dropping the UM and adding A. At the moment, the only IUM word I can think of is PREMIUM (as in insurance policies) and I don't think PREMIA works very well. Are there other IUM words that simply take an S ?
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Post by Twoddle on Oct 3, 2017 20:21:17 GMT
The autumn nights in the UK are well and truly drawing in and I will have to put up up with dark evenings and cold and rain for the next six months or so — sunset was at 18.32 today as compared with 21.20 followed by a long twilight on a warm summer evening. There is nothing worth watching on television and the novel I am writing seems to be going nowhere at the moment. Also, I am making an art form out of laziness so I have nothing better to do than to observe that most folk seem to think that all words ending with IUM should form the plural by dropping the UM and adding A. At the moment, the only IUM word I can think of is PREMIUM (as in insurance policies) and I don't think PREMIA works very well. Are there other IUM words that simply take an S ? Tedium? Or perhaps that doesn't have a plural. Allium. There a dozens of alliums planted in my garden (possibly, but in fact I've no idea). |
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Post by Dave on Oct 4, 2017 16:45:08 GMT
Check the periodic table for elements ending in -ium, such as lithium or radium.
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Post by Dave Miller on Oct 4, 2017 16:56:09 GMT
Check the periodic table for elements ending in -ium, such as lithium or radium. Yes ... but would you ever express those in the plural? |
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