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Post by Geoff on May 23, 2008 10:19:57 GMT
This afternoon I bought a couple of CDs released by a local country music singer, Melinda Schneider. I was interested to find out how many of her albums I had in my collection so I went hunting for her discography. During the search I looked on the web site of her recording label ( www.compassbros.com.au/htdocs/melinda/frameset.htm) and couldn't help noticing the interesting use of apostrophes in the links at the bottom of the home page: news 'n' reviews - got that right photo's - creates lots of discussion, but is not quite right video's - I think that's wrong That is what I call having a bet each (and every) way. PS: How do I convert message text into a hyperlink?
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Post by Alan Palmer on May 23, 2008 13:33:25 GMT
Geoff, A Web address is automatically converted by the forum software to a hyperlink although it appears in an 'unfriendly' format. If you want to produce a link like this: Melinda Schneider's site, you can click the 'Insert Hyperlink' button on the toolbar (second row, second button). It will insert the following: [url][/url] in your message. Then, place your cursor in the opening tag and type the equals sign, follwed by the URL. It will appear thus: [url=http://www.compassbros.com.au/htdocs/melinda/frameset.htm][/url] Finally, move the cursor to between the opening and closing tags and type the wording you want for your text, thus: [url=http://www.compassbros.com.au/htdocs/melinda/frameset.htm]Melinda Schneider's site[/url] It's always a good idea to click the preview button at this point to check the link works.
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Post by Paul Doherty on May 23, 2008 13:51:08 GMT
Another, possibly easier, way is to type the text you want to turn into a link and then go back and highlight it before clicking the "insert hyperlink" button. Then you just have to add the equals sign and the URL, as Alan described.
Same with the other buttons: to make something bold, say, type the whole message and then go back and highlight the bit you want bold. Then click the bold button.
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Post by Geoff on May 23, 2008 15:02:34 GMT
Same with the other buttons: to make something bold, say, type the whole message and then go back and highlight the bit you want bold. Then click the bold button. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Alan. I realised how to do the bold and stuff, but was not sure where the URL and the text went to create the hyperlink. It's just occurred to me that, in my original post, the apostrophe ess in photo's could be to pluralise photo in the same way that video has been plualised, and not to indicate missing letters. Silly me.
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Post by Barry on May 23, 2008 15:39:03 GMT
Yup, I was wondering about that, Geoff Two and three are definitely wrong, and one is only correct if both apostrophes are 9s (so the the n isn't in quotation marks).
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Post by Pete on May 23, 2008 18:29:50 GMT
Two and three are definitely wrong, and one is only correct if both apostrophes are 9s (so the the n isn't in quotation marks). But that's quite hard to do, isn't it? I find Word, for example, automatically makes them look like quotation marks.
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Post by TfS on May 23, 2008 19:51:13 GMT
But that's quite hard to do, isn't it? I find Word, for example, automatically makes them look like quotation marks. If you use the "accent" key (I call it this because I don´t think it is in the same position on my Swedish keyboard as it is on yours), then you will get it looking like this in, for example, the word don´t. Perhaps this is better than the single quote mark don'tTfS (Dijon vu - the same mustard as before.)
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Post by Sue M-V on May 23, 2008 20:03:28 GMT
Aaaargh! TfS, how could you say such a thing?! I think I'm a one-woman campaign to get people in Sweden to stop using accents for apostrophes, and here you are recommending that they do this very thing! Sue
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Post by Tone on May 23, 2008 20:50:56 GMT
>one is only correct if both apostrophes are 9s (so the the n isn't in quotation marks).<
Hm. Not sure there. If we wish to quote that which someone has said we use quotation marks. So if someone actually said the verbally abbreviated form of "and" we might legitimately render it as "n" (or, in the case in point, 'n').
Tone
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Post by Barry on May 23, 2008 22:35:47 GMT
I see what you're saying, Tone, but the 'n; (in Fish 'n' chips) is definitely a double truncation; of they'd said it, it would be "Fish 'n' chips"
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Post by Dave on May 24, 2008 4:25:32 GMT
I find Word, for example, automatically makes them look like quotation marks. You can fool Word by typing a letter, then the apostrophe, then the n (for instance), then delete the first 'dummy' letter: you're left with a 9-type apostrophe at the beginning of a word. You could also copy and paste one from the end of a (partial) word to the beginning where you want it.
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Post by TfS on May 24, 2008 9:54:21 GMT
Aaaargh! TfS, how could you say such a thing?! I think I'm a one-woman campaign to get people in Sweden to stop using accents for apostrophes, and here you are recommending that they do this very thing! Sue So which character do you use for an apostrophe then, Sue? Barry suggests that this character ' looks like a quotation mark (single inverted comma?) whereas the acute accent ´at least looks more like an apostrophe. Where is the apostrophe on the keyboard ( 9) when we need it? TfS
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Post by Pete on May 24, 2008 10:01:41 GMT
There are some useful hints in this thread that might usefully be saevd elsewhere for future reference. I am specifically thinking about the material on links and also on fooling the system to produce the right sort of apostrophe or inverted comma.
Can this be an addition to the FAQs part of the site or something similar?
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Post by Verbivore on May 24, 2008 14:04:04 GMT
[...] Where is the apostrophe on the keyboard ( 9) when we need it? TfS For material intended for printing, I always get the apostrophe / single closing quotation mark by using a key combo (Shift-Alt-ClosingBracket), no matter what program I'm using. Surely there is an equivalent and equally accessible combo on non-Mac computers? For material to be read primarily online (but is not presented in PDF form), I use the HTML code & # 8217 ; (without the spaces) when I'm being fussy, but the foot mark when posting to forums (because some forum software does not recognise the HTML code (for whatever reasons). Ultimately, I have no control over viewers' font sets and browser settings, so there's little point in being too particular for some online applications. Whether it looks like a "9" or a foot mark or something else depends entirely on the font; some fonts differentiate while others don't (appear to). I shall attempt hereunder to use the above code with various fonts. (No guarantee they will all render correctly on all viewers' screens.) ’ (Verdana) ’ (Times) ’ (Arial) ’ (Comic Sans) ’ (Impact) ’ (Courier) Now here are the same font representations of the foot mark. ' (Verdana) ' (Times) ' (Arial) ' (Comic Sans) ' (Impact) ' (Courier)
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Post by TfS on May 24, 2008 19:08:16 GMT
Vv,
Looks like Times New Roman gave the best result for the code.
TfS
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